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hillary clinton once again making the rounds on the speaking circuit. this is new, but she did not reveal her future plans. that's not stopping some from trying to pin her down. >> can you give us some insight into how the tv bio looks like? >> well, i would really like to, but i have no characters left. >> twitter jokes on the rep side. chris christie and mitt romney reunite to raise money for the republican party. that comes as the new jersey governor tries to move further away from bridge-gate. >> we're going through internal investigation. all of this stuff will come out open an appropriate period of time. i'm not going to give into the hysteria of questions.
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texas is on cruise control. >> there you heard it. her campaign slogan slams texas senator cruz, but are the voters fed up enough to go blue? good morning, i am ari melbourne in for chris jansing. governor jan brewer with the stroke of a pen stopped sb-1062. it would have allowed businesses to sdrim -- she finally vetoed the bill. >> i have not heard of one example in arizona where business owners' religious liberty has been violated. the bill is broadly worded and could result in unintended and negative consequences. i sincerely believe that senate bill 1062 has the potential to
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create more problems than it purports to solve. >> crowds erupted into cheers when they learned of that veto last night. here's new reaction within the state and from one of the biggest names in politics. >> the governor has done absolutely the right thing for our state and sent a message to the country about our values. arizona is a state that welcomes diversity. >> thankfully the governor of arizona has vetoed the discriminatory legislation that was pass ed. recognizing that inclusive leadership is really what the 21st century is all about. >> that applause goes from arizona out to florida where secretary clinton was speaking. it comes on the same day a
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federal judge struck down a texas ban on same-sex marriage, leaving the law in place pending an appeal, but clearly adding to the momentum of these issues. to the lbgt leaders they are going on the offense to -- to go after many laws that are still -- we have susan page and jackie kucinich. susan, walk us through this news. people have been hearing about this proposal all this week, and it became obviously a national issue with businesses like the nfl weighs in. i want to talk about this today. a lot of these kind of rules are still on the books in other states, and a lot of sdrim nations not yet banned against gay americans under federal law. >> ari, i started covering national politics in 19806789 i've never seen a change in public opinion on a big issue as
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we have seen just in the past decade when it comes to this issue. and governor brewer's decision, which was not a guarantee from the start, is one move sign of that. you mentioned the court decision in texas. we also saw in georgia yes two bills with religion our liberty in their titles and were seen as a way to possibly discriminate against gay men and lesbian, go down in that. also in another conservative state. we are seeing a tidal wave on this issue that i think will be hard for people to resist in just about any corner of it. >> yeah, you put it that way. that's extraordinary, coming from how long you've been covering these state and national issues. jackie, when you look at the legal issues here which as we've said we're -- which combined with the political legislature, and then something else, jackie, which is the fact that these issues are being covered
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differently, i think, and not covered always on the sometimes conservative terms of calling it religious liberty. a lot of people support religious liberty, but they don't think that means it should be a cover for discrimination. >> well, yeah, i think one of the things that's been interesting, particularly with the republican party is the strain of libertarianism that's been infused recently, which is another reason why i think you see some republicans not agreeing with some of these bans, and you're right, six of them i think have been overturned just recently. i think that's another reason why you saw jan brewer being pressured by so many republicans in her state to veto this. the tide is turning, and i think both parties know they need to get on board. >> you mentioned that republican pressure. that has been solid, and probably a big part of this even beyond the businesses that we mentioned. yet i want to be clear here this morning as people try to understand this. what happened here in arizona is
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a bill that would have said that basically i can't discriminate against customers, right? because they are gay. has now been rejected. yet under federal law, there is nothing protecting discrimination against employees who happen to be gay. to put that in simple terms, now you have more of a right to make sure that a baker will make a cake at your gay wedding, right? you don't necessarily have a right not to get fired because you happen to be gay. i want to put up on the screen what we are talking about. the discrimination act which bans employers from refusing to hire or discriminating against workers or job applicants based on their sexual orientation or gender identity. that is a big that's not being law even though it's been introduced in every congress, and i want to read to you what speaker boehner said.
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he believes it would cost small business jobs. >> it's been a big battle on capitol hill, as you know. when we say there's a lot of momentum on this issue, that doesn't mean it's 100% over, or in dozens of states, which still have bars to smex marriage sometimes embedded in their constitution. it isn't a battle that's over, but you can see it going in one direction. one important reason is the interest of the business community, the chamber of commerce in arizona came out and urged the governor to veto this. in the georgia case, delta air lines was urging the georgia legislature not to go down this path. that has been an important part of encouraging politicians on all sides to move toward recognizing. >> and yet, jackie, that is the question, both on the business side and on the practical side, the fact you can still
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discriminate against gay americans in their job and what they need for their livelihood is probably more significant than what i'm calling the gay we hadling cake text. >> if the talk to sponsors they say this fight isn't over. they do have some republican -- they have a lot of republican support. the issue is getting it to the floor, and i think issues, when you have something like what happened in arizona, it increases that pressure even more. >> you would think. you do think that -- >> you would think that. >> you do think it would reverberate in congress briefly? >> i think it could. >> thank you both for keeping an eye on this for us. we are going to check the news feed. republican congressman dave camp of michigan is talking up the tax reform plan that he proposed yesterday. now on "morning joe" today he said this provides reform and growth, he says it's a simpler tax code in which 95% of taxpayers would pay a 10% rate.
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it too good to be true? it cuts a few cherished cuts and credits, which has led some to say it's d.o.a. senator warren is taking part in a discussion at the center for american progress. but not not so much for the middle class, an issue she's been leading on. we want you to know, as we keep you read in here, at this hour, tea party patriots are throwing themselves a fifth anniversary. among the speakers thob michele bachmann is speaking right there on the screen, plus steve king and tea party senator mike lee. rand paul and ted cruz are headlining in the afternoon. we'll have more on that story later. coming up first, president obama making good on a promise that he made to young minority men. will the promise ultimately breed results? that of course is a question on a lot of people's minds. we're talking about the initiative today with his labor
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well. welcome back. president obama will announce a new program today aimed at young men whose lives are disproportionately impacted by violence -- the initiative will do a couple things. work to expand public and private programs that help young male minorities succeed, not only in school, but beyond. it will partner with those communities to invest in at least $200 million over the next five years, and that is on top of $150 million in spending that's already been approved or awarded. let's get right to it. we have msnbc national reporter germane lee on set, and an honor to have the secretary of labor
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tom perez. welcome to you both. >> great to be here. >> mr. secretary, let me start with you, and start with a colleague of yours last hour here on msnbc, chuck todd was talking to valerie jarrett about this. she said, look, the president feels this is part of his own story, and she talked about something he tells at-risk teenagers when he talk to these. >> he said the only difference really between the teens that are a part of b.a.m. and his life is he grew up in a more forgiving environment. in hawaii, if you got in trouble there weren't really any serious consequences, but on the streets of chicago, those consequences could be fatal. b.a.m. standing for becoming a man. it's an initiative you have all spoken about. walk us through this. >> this is about the president's opportunity agenda, making sure that everybody has an opportunity to succeed, and making sure we tap into the potential of every young man in america. there are too many people who have remarkable potential.
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i believe that everybody is gifted and talented. it's incumbent on us to draw out those gifts and talents. all too frequently zip code or other circumstances in life undermines your able to tap your full potential. that's what this is about, making sure we invest in young men of color, understanding that it starts with early childhood, making sure that we are looking at middle and high school, where we have bleak and brown kids disproportionately suspended, and making sure we have a pathway to the middle class and the work we do at the department of labor, making sure people have the skills to compete. this is about making sure that folks have a fair shake, and making sure we take the programs that work and help to bring them to scale. that's what this is about. >> mr. secretary i wrote down something you said, black and brown kids. that's part of what this is, yet all too obvious in our politics and media, it's hard to talk about that. right? it's hard to talk about that
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without immediately ending up in a racially polarized discussion. this initiative today is trying to do the opposite. i want to and why public policy is looking specifically at these results. 86% every african-american boys and 82% of latino boys read below proficiency levels by the fourth grade. when you compare it, it's 58% of young white men or boys. how do you deal with that at a public policy level, while you also, of course, have an obligate to all students, which the president discusses? >> well, i think you focus at the outset on making sure that everybody is ready to learn. that's why the president's laser focus on early childhood is so important. you see studies that show that young kids of color have 3 million less words in their vocabulary by the time they're 3
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years old. 0 to 5 is such a critical part of kids' lives. >> i think they're exposed to 30 million less words in that rice study that your colleague valerie jarrett was talking about that. you've been reporting on this initiative, your thoughts. >> i think when it the first first came out last week that the administration would be pushing this concern, the concern would it have teeth? would it be enough? when you look at the shocking data, which is very disturbing on so many levels, what you have to throw at the problem will be so massive, will this initiative, you know, undo hundreds of years of institutional racism? but this is a good faith initiative by the president and the administration to stick by the promises made in the state of the union, he would do everything he could to help these young men if they were willing to do so. the ford foundation, the george
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soros foundation, they have a good track record of working with -- the details are vague on how it will be delivered on the ground. >> mr. secretary, what do you say to that? he thinks some of the details are vague and some of this is so lodge term. as we're talking about education that starts, a study you mentionsed is the disparities at the age of three, the other data up to fourth grade. the labor markets are picking up 10 to 20 years of disparity. >> sure. let's be honest here. they challenges are many decades in the making. they're not going to be solved overnight, but this focus and the partnership between government, the business community, philanthropy, the faith communities, understanding what works, taking it to scale, we do a lot at the department of labor, for instance, in the space of employment and training.
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we've learned a lot about what works. we have a job corps program celebrating the 50th birthday. it's helped so many people, including but not limited to people of color, to get those basic skills to succeed. we have a program called youth build, that takes kids who obvious times, you know, have gone off the rails a bit, and helps them get those skills to succeed, helps them get the diploma or g.e.d. this is going to be a long-term investment, and it's going to take not only the work of philanthropy, business, government, but parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, communities, everybody investing in this. i think shining a light on this issue is so critically important. i tell you, i look at the future labor market. our country simply, as a matter of economic self-interest, cannot afford to have generations of young men of color who lack the skills to succeed. that is going to hinder our
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global competitiveness. so this is the right thing to do. it's the smart thing to do, and that's why the president is taking leadership on this. >> as i mentioned, i don't think politically it's always difficult even though there's a lot of reasons to do it. it's where the civil rights and economic arguments meet. mr. secretary, i do want to get your thoughts on one other topic. as you know, a lot of people around the country have been looking at arizona, now that the governor has vetoed that bill down there, regarding discrimination against gay customers. yet an issue that you have been working on for years that's still not passed this congress is whether similarly gay discrimination of employees, the employee nondiscrimination act should be passed. as we mentioned in this hour, john boehner has previously said it drives frivolous lawsuit. you've been a supporter. do you think there's a link here? do you think what we're watching in arizona, is that congress
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should take another look at the nondiscrimination act this week? >> first of all, i applaud governor brewer for her veto. i can't understand why, when you're trying to create jobs, the first bill you send to the governor is a bill about this issue. that's personally baffling to me. the first issue that i testified on after i was confirmed as assistant attorney general for civil rights was the employment nondiscrimination act. i want to make sure in the workplace people are judged by the quality of their work and the content of their character, and not by -- >> you think the speaker should hold a vote on it? >> i'm confident if that vote took place tomorrow in the house of representatives that it would command a majority in the house of representatives. that's where the american people are. they don't care who you love. they care whether you can do the job. you look at what's happened in the states that have passed this law, you know, the business community hasn't left. you know, the whole parade of
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horribles that is always predicted by opponents hasn't occurred. this bill has been pending in congress since the early '90s. i know that because i was working for senator kennedy in the mid '90s. civil rights is about persistence. the american people want this, and i hope the leader follows suit. >> thank you for your time today on a busy today, secretary pere. you can go deeper on this topic, this policy on msnbc, log on, share your thoughts, and weigh in. he will get back to you. coming up for us, we're going to talk to a texas senate candidate who ace staking her campaign on ted chris. >> if texas stays on cruz control, we're headed for a wreck. that's up later. [ female announcer ] a classic macaroni & cheese from stouffer's
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we've got your political headlines now. michelle obama wants to overhaul food labels as part of her let's move initiative. this could be the first change to food labels in decades. she's unveiling a plan to help americans make better choices. adding sugars to what you see. michelle obama unveiled a plan to got junk food and soda out of our schools entirely. seth rogan had a serious message, talking about increasing funding for alzheimer's research, but no surprise he found a way to use a little comedy to get across the point. >> i came here today for a few reasons -- one i'm a huge "house of cards" fan. just marathoned the whole thing, had to be here. two is to say people need more
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meetings with 28 questions, and there hasn't been one on this. not one. that doesn't mean it's not an important issue, it is an important issue, but what it does mean is the public understands there are a lot of important issues. i will be damned if i let any of this stuff get in the way of doing my real job. and this is my real job, and i'm doing it. >> he is doing it. that was new jersey governor chris christie, swatting away questions last night on "ask the governor" radio show. he's planning to reunite with mitt romney at a fund-raiser in boston today. the joint appearance sense signals that mitt romney is a key ally to the more moderate republican establishment. we want to note there are newly unredacted documents out in the last hour or so. if there are new pertinent details, we will bring them to you live. let's go to dick gephardt, also deputy campaign manager for john
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kerry's presidential bid, where i should mention we worked do, and republican strategist and john feehery. long intros, because you guys have lot done a lot of thing. steve, the bask argument chris christie is making is bomb he had two carefully choreographed events, where no one managed to get in a question out of those 28 questions on bridge-gate, that now this is behind the people of new jersey. is that right? >> i don't think so. i think the problem chris christie has is there's still a lot of information out there that has to be gathered. when all of the people involved are hiring criminal attorneys, that's generally not a good way to launch a compare for president. i think the question isn't whether he will run for president. the question is will he be governor at the end of this year. >> wow, that's strong talk. i'll tell you someone who did disagree, a former republican governor of new jersey.
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john, i want you to listen to this. we had christine todd on this yesterday. this is what she said yesterday. >> he needs to focus on his job as governor. he needs to talk about the budget. this is a huge issue. he has big challenges within the budget. there are several investigations going on, let then run their course. there's been nothing so far that has said anything different. >> john, how helpful is it to him to have a former republican governor like that speak out? or is that expected at this point? >> well, i think it's very helpful to have christine todd-whitman speak out in favor of governor christie. i think she's right and the governor is right. the people of new jersey want to know how the governor will deal with the budget problems. 0% of the budget is taken up to pay benefits to his employees. that is a huge problem. how do you invest in roads and bridges when you're paying so much for pension benefits, things like that.
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i think that chris christie is going to spend the next two years focussing on that issue and pick a fight with the left, which will endear him to the right and help him if he decide toss run for president. >> you want two years, so that means you obviously disagree with steve's claim that he may be out by the end of the year? >> yeah, i disagree with that. >> i didn't expect you guy toss come to consensus just yet. they're out there, and it did -- make him toxic. mitt romney doesn't have to appear with anyone. indeed he doesn't appear with all republicans all the time. he's still famous, can still bring in money. here's what he said on "meet the press". >> chris could easily become our nominee and save our party and help get this nation on the right track. they don't come better than chris christie. >> what do you make of this romney alliance right now?
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>> again, there's a lot of facts that still have to come out, and there's a long way until the next presidential election, but i've been around politics for a long time, and i think that if i -- i would not want to be in chris christie's position if i was planning to run for president of the united states right now. >> and i should mention the romney sound is, of course, from before when he was looking forward to chris christie, but again appears -- i want to turn to one other big piece here on the national agenda. you were talking about whether chris christie can really motivate republicans by getting into fights, right? and when did he want to engage on national issue there's a new "new york times"/cbs poll out today that shows how toxic ob a obamacare or how polarizing it's become. 54% of republicans say they would not vote for a candidate with a different view on abortion, 60% for dems.
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you have a higher share -- who didn't stand with them on the affordable care act. what does it tell us going into the mid temperatures that for both sides here we now have an issue in the affordable care act that is literally more divisive than abortion voting? >> obviously obamacare is very polarizing, also been very motivating especially for republicans. we saw that in 2010. i think we'll see it gin in 2014. republicans will be motivated to come out and vote because they dislike obama care so much. that being said republicans shouldn't only focus on obamacare. they also have to come up with -- but obamacare is a gift that keeps on giving and they'll be motivated to come out to the polls this november. >> steve, briefly your response? >> midterm elections are about turning out your base for both sides. i think both parties have very
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motivated bases. they have toobama care. i think be the time we get to november, that the vast majority of -- and it will end up as a net positive. those numbersle reflect a delay drag is the white house arguing with 4 million registrations now in the good part of selling that story. we will see. steve and john, thank you very much. we're going to turn to developing now, a political crisis in the ukraine which we have been covering is spreading. there are dozens of heavily armed pro-government gunmen that have seized control. police have surrounded the billing hoping to contain any violence. this comes after a day that president putin ordered military exercises for 150,000 russian troops that include some who are based near that border with
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ukraine. in the meantime russian, released a statement from the now fugitive former president, who says he maintains he's actually as a matter of legitimacy, still the president of ukraine. they did not say where he is located. russia says it will grant protection to him. that's an interesting story there. but now we turn to what's moving your money. delta is shaking up the frequent flyer rule. you know piling up those miles is important. i have mandy drury here to tell us all about it. what's going on. >> you remember. you're a member of the program. >> how did you know that? i told you in the -- >> i didn't work that out for myself. i know you're a bit of a pop you list and like to fly coach, so this new change in the frequent flyer program will not benefit you. >> really? >> january 1st of next year you are dug to accrue miles not based on how far you fly, but on what the ticket costs, on the ticket price.
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who do you think that will benefit? >> probably the people who get the better ticket. >> absolutely. the business class travelers, first-class travelers, people who say i've got to go on this vacation, as they book their flight at the last metropolitan. why? according to "wall street journal," the top 4% of delta's customers account for about 25% of their revenue, so delta naturally wants to keep those business flyers really, really happy. as for the coach people, like yourself, it's kind of bad luck a little bit. you know what? you can go elsewhere, maybe to a lower-cost airline lie southwest or jetblue or virgin america, but those guys are already doing that frequent flyer program based on the ticket price and now how far you fly. >> but also it really explodes the whole analogy of miles. when you accrues the miles, but basically you're telling me you get dollar credit. >> and it could potential become the industry standard. if delta one of these so-called legacy traditional carriers, if delta is changing the program,
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shown to break down the outer coat of the virus and can be used as a nontoxic food and surface sanitizer. you know, senator ted cruz is believed to be one of the most morizing figures in american politics for statements like the one he made just this morning. >> almost single handedly you shut down the federal government to the great dismay of top leaders in your own party. was it worth it? >> you know, you will not be surprised to know that i don't agree with the premise of that question. >> did you shut down the government? who did? >> i think president obama and harry reid shut down the government. >> yeah, he may think that. it's not true, because of course congress funds the government and -- formed to get texas off
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of, quote, cruz control. >> ted chris is the epitome of everything that's wrong with washington. and john cornyn is along for the ride. he's on autopilot. voting the way ted cruz wants him to. joining us democratic candidates maxe scherr. >> people are sick and tire of folks putting corporations and insurance companies first. i'm running to fight for people, for workers, for women, for the lbgt communities, for children. i'm running to fight for immigrants, and those are the categories of people who ted cruz and john cornyn will recklessly left behind. >> you mentioned the lbgt community and i saw in some of
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your campaigning, you you talked specifically about a votes on discriminati discrimination. tell us about that. i was actually in the chambers when it went forward. they called his name several times. he didn't vote until the very end after they called his name multiple times. finally they said his name, and not only did a nay vote, but a double thumbs down and puckered up his face. i was disgusted. when we have a human being who is voting against antidiscrimination for people of his own state? i was disgusted. i knew this is the right time to run and this is the right man to run against. >> that's strong stuff. you're talking about that vote. one of the things that he and others who have voted against is that they didn't think it was legally necessary. you seems to be suggesting a different explanation. you think senator cornyn doesn't view people who happen to be gale as equal?
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>> exactly. this goes to the premise of the problem with john cornyn. he's putting corporations before people. hi fear of lawsuits is putting corporations before human beings that he is allowing to be discriminated against by the hands of corporations. for me, i'll always put people first. that's not what he has a history of doing at all. >> i said to look at wendy davis who has become quite a big national figure. some of your supporters have said you have a few things in common. you're both attorneys, both single moms, both texas democrats. there's a lot of texas democrats. one problem for you with this comparison, she didn't endorse you. tell us about that, and whether that reflects any kind of weakness on your part with some of the top democrats in your state. >> well, you know, as they say. the lord protects me from my friends so i can focus on my enemies. even though she didn't endorse me, she endorsed someone running
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against me, and he's the epitome of one of the problems we have. he has poured $1.6 million into republican candidates and causes. he's even given money to john cornyn in the past, to mitch mcconnell, to the committee, he's given money to rick perry, greg abbott, and is now running as a republican. he is the epitome of a wolf in sheep's clothing. the bible analogy, the wolf analogy. for your viewers, we did invite all of the texas senate candidates here in the primary on the show, so if he wants to come on and respond, he's still welcome to do that. you have a primarily officially next week, so of course we wish you luck with that. maxey -- scherr thanks for your time. >> thanks for having me. rupert murdoch says that potus was right to focus on youth education.
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yes it's time for the reputation report, a weekly look at what's hot and what's not on social media. al bragman, chairman of 15 minutes public relations, the only guest we have that gets that loud punching sound effect, howard. that's because you're special. this sunday the oscars. thee readying the red carpet ahead of what is now the 86th academy awards. they have the large tent in place. people love the red carpet, they love the movies, what is the pre-oscar social media buzz here? >> it's going through the roof. over the next few days it's only going to see crazier. three factors that we've been
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able to isolate. number one, a lot of big stars here. a lot of people's favorites of nominated. number two, it's a real competition. a lot of years we know who's going to win. it's a coronation. not so much. people enjoy this kind of competition. number three is the host, ellen degeneris degeneris. >> is she oprah numbers here? everybody loves ellen. >> everybody loves ellen, 93% positive, which is pretty extraordinary for anything on the internet. >> no offense, but on our tweets, we don't find you polling 93% positive yet. >> no, no, i'm in the low 20s. it's sad. >> we'll fact check that later. i do want to get you on the mystery money story. this has interested a lot of people. the bitcoin, the backlash after one of the collapse of the
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exchanges in japan. this is get serious. joe manchin actually wants federal regulators to ban the currency, calling it dangerous. he's called it disruptive, highly unstable. we've mentioned of course there's other regulatory approaches here, but before you get that far, right, you have to look at whether people on the internet think they can actually use this service with any trust. what is the kind of mood out there right now? >> bitcoin was created by the famous winklevoss twins. on the overall filter, it's still 43% positive. there's a lot of people who believe there will be an internet currency that bitcoin is in the lead, and they like what's called the democratization of currency, not run by governments, but run by free market.
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so it's quite a roller coaster ride. >> i think you put it well. the very thing that makes it cool also makes it very unstable. it is new, unknown. interesting for people with money to play with, not a place to put any of your retirement savings. on a more serious topic that we've been covering, arizona's religious freedom bill. it has been vetoed by governor brewer, but this story is bigger than politics. it's a culture story, all over the internet. how is it trending? >> well, even after her veto last night, the governor is trending 78% negative. people are not happy about this. i like to think that the legislature built a second grand canyon in arizona. she got a lot of pressure from surprising people, republican senators, some very conservative corporations, to veto this bill. i hope other states start to get the message this kind of legislation is going to be
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harmful, and i'm telling you now, arizona's going to see -- pay a big price for this. this sends the wrong message. >> yeah, it's interesting. public opinion at work. i cover politics. there's issues that are tough calls when religion is pitted against other values. a lot of folks look at this and found something else, sort of religion being misused, misinvoked. it's interesting to hear from your reporting that it's also happening online. howard bragman, thanks as always for your time. that does wrap up this hour of jansing & company. news nation with tamron has, is up next. in every bottle. ♪ because more of what you love is a beautiful thing. the new tide plus collection. what's your tide?
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i have a lifetime of experience. so i know how important that is. good morning, everyone. i'm tamron hall. this is "news nation." developing now, reaction is streaming in after arizona governor jan brewer vetoed a
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controversial bill that would have allowed business owners to refuse to serve anyone base odd their religious belief. the governor used her veto pen last night after spending the day in a private meeting with supporters and opponents. >> i call them like i see them. despite the tears or the boos from the crowd. i sincerely believe that senate bill 1062 has the potential to create more problems than it purports to solve. i could divide arizona in ways we cannot even imagine, and no one would ever want. news of the veto immediately drew cheers from protest who had been gathered at the capitol in phoenix ever since the proposal won approval. senator mccain issued a statement say, quote -- i appreciate the decision made by governor brewer to veto this

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